Sunday, January 18, 2009

Sangiovese Saga

Today we filtered the Sangio and blended it 2:1 with some cabernet (~52G of Sangio and ~25G of Cabernet-Bin A) to make the "base" of a Super Tuscan wine. We're all very excited that we have been able to save the Sangiovese, which had a terrible case of rotten egg.  Here's the history of the 08 sangio.
 
The sangio was crushed on Oct 19, we added approx 10G of Clone 6 Cab must to help the flavor and low sugars. We pressed it on Oct 29th and got 70G of wine.  On Nov 10 we noticed a very strong rotten egg smell in the sangio. We aggressively racked it over copper 4 times in Nov and Dec and stored it in SS kegs until it stabilized in early January.  At this point we were down to about 54G of Sangio.
 
On Jan 18th we filtered the Sangio through a #3/coarse filter (and over copper). It took 2 sets of filters and we still didn't quite get through it all as the filters got clogged with junk.  The resulting sangio was a little lighter in color and flavor, but still good. Maybe a bit smoother.  We started going through a fine filter and decided to stop, as after going through the fine filter we had more of a watery sangio rose that none of us liked.
 
The resulting Super Tuscan wine is stored in Ray's 22G French, Troy's 15G Hungarian, Michele's 15G Hungarian and some carboys.  It will be interesting to taste the wine transform over the next 9 months in the barrels--as they do their magic.  We expect we will tweak the Super Tuscan blend before we bottle it, adding more cab, and/or some merlot and possibly some petit verdot.
 
Michele took her barrel of Super Tuscan home along with her 13G barrel of Cabernet, plus 2G of Merlot and Super Tuscan for topping. 

Sunday, January 11, 2009

WA Malbec Racked Over Copper.

Troy, Ray, Bob and Michele met and racked the WA Malbec over copper on Sat. The rotten egg smell was diminished, but still very evident. The process went faster with some improvements to the copper flashing that Bob has fashioned.  There wasn't much sediment.  We racked it over copper out and back in and added approx 1/3tsp meta to the wine before racking back into the barrel. 
 
We checked the Sangio and it is "holding steady" with a slight smell. One of the 3 15G SS kegs smells more than the others but we decided not to rack over copper that the filtering process would be enough rack-and-spash.  We tasted it and while it isn't delightful, the taste has improved dramatically.  It's dry, with an acid bite to the aftertaste--becase of the low-low PH.  Certainly blending it with some high-ph cabernet will help balance that out.  We think the Sangio is ready to filter--but when we contacted Brewcon about their filter the lady working there didn't know enough about the filter system to rent it out. We will have to talk with the husband.  We are planning on filtering it next weekend (Sat or Sun).  Troy will call and talk with the Brewcon owner this week to make sure the filter is ready this time.
 
When we filter the Sangio we have to decide how to handle it. Initially we planned on blending it with Bin-A (non acid corrected) Cabernet (approx 50/50) to balance out the acids. This would give us a good base for creating a super-tuscan. The wine needs to get into a barrel to help smooth it out and get some character.  We will wait to filter the WA Malbec until we see how it impacts the Sangio. We may also decide we do not need to filter the WA Malbec as it didn't have as significant of a rotten egg smell.

We are proposing to filter and bottle the Chard in the winter (likely early Feb) this year instead of letting it go to Spring. This is based on recommendations in the Winemaking Seminar that Ray, Lee and I attended 2 summers ago to bottle early to capture the fruity flavors.  This matches our experiences as over the last couple years we've noticed that we like the taste of the Chard the best mid-winter, so bottling it now makes sense.  Filtering the wine will ensure that it is clear and doesn't go through MLF after it's in the bottle.  Here's a link to the winemaking seminar notes, for reference. http://riverwoodswinery.googlepages.com/WinemakingSeminarNotes.html .   When we filter the Chard it would make sense to bottle it at the same time.  So everyone should start to get some non-shouldered bottles ready. 2.5 cases each will be plenty.  Remember Mike's suggestion to sprinkle a dash of straight-A into the bottle while you soak off lables will help make washing the insides go much faster (something important when you're washing bottles outside in the dead of winter!!).
 
When we filter the Sangio we need to decide our plan for what goes into barrels. We have a 15G barrel empty, and we have 45G of Sangio in SS kegs.  We will have to decide which 30G of wine will remain in SS kegs.  We can rotate the wines in/out and we have more oak dominoes we can use.  Also, once we filter the Sangio Michele will be taking her 2 barrels out of the garage.  One with Cab and one with Sangio/Cab. 
 
I propose we split the 30G stainless storage across the SuperTuscan and Merlot--15G each. Every time we rack we'll combine the SS and Barrel wines which will balance out the flavors. This is how we've handled it in the past and it has worked out well.
 
We topped and spot-tasted the other wines. All are coming along very good. The merlot is tasty, the Williamson cab is good but has some sandpaper-like seed tannins that need to mellow in the barrel. The ID Malbec was very tasty--much better than the WA Malbec is right now. 

Tuesday, December 23, 2008

winery work on 12/23/08

Today we racked the WA Malbec over copper plate twice and added approx. 1/3 tsp. Meta to approx 19 gals.    It has a strong rotten egg smell, although Ray and Bob don't think it was as bad as the Sangio. 
 
Sangio smells OK and tastes a little tart, almost lemony/grassy.  We did not rack it any more.
 
We racked the SS 15.5 gal of Chard.  Tastes great! 
 
We topped the rest of the barrels. They all smell good. 
 

 


Wednesday, December 10, 2008

topping report

At 1pm today (12/10/08) Bob, Lee and Mike checked all the containers/barrels and topped the Malbec and Chard. 
 
The Chard (stainless steel keg) smells great, tastes good (could use a touch of wood) and containers are good to go.  We racked the 3 gal carboy and got rid of about a 1/2 gallon of goop in the bottom.  jTasted the 3 gal carboy and it is the same good taste as the stainless keg.
 
The Washington Malbec smells strong of rotten egg.  The barrel was down about 2 bottles.  Need to rack it over copper soon.  (did not smell the carboy of Wa/Malbec.  (Sorry)
 
The Idaho Malbec smells great, tastes great and has been topped (about 3/4 a bottle)
 
The bungs, bubblers and corks are looking good in everything else.  We did open one barrel of 08 cab and the level has not dropped since we racked on Sunday 9/07/08, so we left the other recently racked containers alone. 
 
Empty barrel smells really good.
 
One barrel that appeared to be slightly leaking still shows a stain, and I was able to feel about a drop of wet red wine on my finger after I ran it around the head, but it seems to be OK.  Maybe it has swollen and sealed itself. 
 
Bungs that were removed were meta'd and returned. 
 
I'll send an e-mail to Quality Nursery to inform David of the rotten egg smell in his Malbec. 
 
That's it!       Mike
 
 
Margaret Dimmick
 
 

Sunday, December 7, 2008

Cab & Malbec Racked Off The Gross Lees

The group met and racked the barrels of Merlot and Cabernet off their gross lees today. We spot checked the sugars and the merlot was down to .994 and the cab was at .996. Both down a little since we pressed, but could use to drop a little further.  The cab had considerable sediment on the bottom and we lost 2 gallons or so in each barrel.   Troy's 15G Hungarian was emptied out while racking the cab, and needs a meta rinse.  It will stay empty until the Sangio is ready.
 
We re-racked the sangio over copper again. The sangio continues to smell better. The stainless kegs that have been racked once more than the others had very little to no rotten egg smell!  We are delighted to be rid of the nasty smell and we plan to filter the sangio in the next week or so to (hopefully) keep it from coming back.  Some of the sangio still had considerable gunky-ness settled to the bottom as the precipitants have been coming out from adding extra meta and racking over the copper.  We've been aggressivly discarding any sediment when we rack.
 
We plan to keep the sangio in stainless kegs and glass until we are sure it is "sound", so that it doesn't contaminate a barrel. Once we're confident it is good (a couple weeks after filtering) we'll combine it with some of the cabernet to make the base of the Super Tuscan.  We tried some blending today and about a 60% cabernet and 40% sangio was good. Could use a shot of Petit Verdot too.  I think the first Super Tuscan had approx 10% petit verdot.
 
The group reviewed the Fall expenses and Troy will finish the accounting and get the results out to the group.  This year we crushed 5,800 pounds of grapes, compared to 4,100 pounds last year. Both this year and last year we had 6 crushings and 5 pressings.  We pressed out 376 gallons of wine this year!
 
The group decided to create a new category of capital equipment called "Group Capital" that we split the cost of evenly. New items for the category are microbins and the new bottler. We decided to not go back and try and account for previous items, but just keep track of new items from here forward.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008

Cab and Merlot are Pressed!

We pressed out the Wood River Merlot and the Williamson Cabernet today in about 4.5 hours. 1,000lbs of Merlot and 2,000lbs of Cab.  Wow, that's a lot of grapes!! It's great to finally have all of them pressed out. With the high alcohol levels it was a real struggle getting through fermentation this year.  The merlot and cabernet are around .998 brix and still showing signs of fermenting a bit.  We'd like to see them drop to .995 or .990 over the next week.  We'll measure brix again when we rack them in a week or two.
 
The merlot was very tasty.  Big flavors and color from a full MONTH on the skins. Still lots of fruit--or maybe a little sweetness. It's hard to say.  The Cabernet was on the skins for about 3 weeks and was a bit harsh/bitter and alcoholic--maybe from the extra exposure to seeds from the way the grapes got crushed.  We pressed the cabernet pretty lightly, trying to avoid a rise in PH and to minimize the hard tannins.  We pressed the Merlot a little harder.  We got 88G of Merlot out of 114G of must. More than we expected. A 77% yield.  Maybe we had more merlot than we thought?  We got 84G of Cabernet out of 246G of must--34% yield.  Much less than we expected, although it was pressed very lightly.  Maybe we had less Cabernet than we thought?
 
We racked the Clone-6 cab off it's gross lees and it tastes very good. We racked about 1/2 the Sangio over copper.  The Sangio is smelling better, and is tasting better too. Still a little ways to go before we can filter it and call it "good".
 
Photos are uploaded to the group's 2008 online photo album.
 
 

Monday, November 24, 2008

Pressing On Tuesday

We checked the Merlot and Cab this afternoon and they are all at or below zero brix. Yea!  We plan on pressing on Tuesday, starting at 2pm.
 
Cab Bin A: .998
Cab Bin B: .998
Cab Bin C: 0
Merlot: .998

Thursday, November 20, 2008

Fermentation Update: Looking Good!

Lee and I measured the wines today at 2:00.  Merlot:  68 and 0.5,  Cab A: 66 and 0.5,  Cab B: 66 and 1.0,  Cab C:  67 and 1.2.  As a little experiment, we filtered a sample of Cab A though a gold coffee filter and measured Brix as 0.   Fermentation still going on and taste is good. 

 

Bob  

Wednesday, November 19, 2008

Brix Update

Just finished measuring at 3:00. Merlot: 66 and 2.2 temp and brix respectively, Cab A: 64 and 2.5, Cab B: 65 and 2.7, Cab C: 66 and 3.5. Lee had punched them down earlier. All tasted pretty good.

Caps were solid. Still foaming, too. We thought they looked OK and fermation still going on.

Bob

Tuesday, November 18, 2008

Cabernet Brix Adjusted

Bob, Troy and Lee checked the fermentation status. The merlot continues to make good progress and has a solid cap. Merlot flavor and color is very good. The two smaller bins of cab continue to be slow with temps dropping a degree.
 
We discussed options and the unavoidable fact is that the yeast is unable to continue to ferment because the alcohol levels are reaching the 16% toxicity range for the Pastur Red yeast. The dropping must temps are of concern because we cannot easily get the temps back up after they drop below the min level of 64 degrees.
 
Since the brix adjustment with water is working well on the merlot we decided to do it on the cabernet. Not much water is needed and the benefits are much higher than the risk of a little dilution.
 
We added approx 1.3G of 105 degree water to each small bin and 2.6G of 105 degree water to the large bin. We hydrated and added 3 paks of Pastur Red yeast to each small bin and 5 paks to the large bin. Each has been stirred well and put to bed.
 
Cab Bin A: 64 degrees, 2.75 brix. Dropped to 2.5 brix after water added.
Cab Bin B: 65 degrees, 3+ brix. Dropped to 3 brix after water added.
Cab Bin C: 65 degrees, 4 brix. Dropped to 3+ brix after water added.
Merlot 68 degrees, 3 brix.
 
Bob and/or Lee will punch down once during the day on Wed. Bob and/or Troy will take brix and temp readings, either mid-day or in the evening. Watch for the daily report.

Monday, November 17, 2008

Merlot Fermentation Imroved!

Troy, Bob and Lee checked progress tonight and the merlot is doing very well. Fermentation has definitely increased with bix dropping more than in the last week!  The temp has also come up from 68 to 69 degrees and the cap was very solid.  Taste is less sweet with very good flavors. :-D  We were all very happy with the results.  We hydrated and added 5 paks of RC212 yeast to the Meta to help ensure good yeast to finish fermentation.
 
Cabs continue fermenting with the big bin having the densest cap and the smaller bins having a softer cap.  Temps in the smaller bins dropped a little from 65-66 degrees to just under 65 degrees. Bin A has made no progress in Brix. Between the softer cap, lower temps and no change in brix on Cab Bin A the smaller bins of Cabernet appear to be slowing down fermentation. A reading of 2.75-3 Brix would have the Cab around the 16% alcohol--the toxic level for the yeast, which Bin A and B are nearing.
 
Merlot 66-99 degrees. 3.5 Brix -- DOWN FROM 4.75 BRIX
Cab Bin A 65- degrees. 3 Brix  -- NO PROGRESS
Cab Bin B 65- degrees. 3.75- Brix  -- DOWN FROM 5 BRIX
Cab Bin C 65+ degrees. 4.75 Brix -- DOWN FROM 5 BRIX
 
We will take another reading on Tuesday. If the Cab in Bin A hasn't made progress, then we will have to take steps to keep the fermentation from becoming stuck. Since the water addition worked well for the Merlot, we may try it with the Cabernet. The amount of water needed is pretty small: 2.8G for the big bin and 1.4G for each of the small bins.

Sangio Much Improved

We racked the Sangio over copper again on Sunday. It smelled much much better. :)  We are optimistic that it has turned the corner!
 
We added 20ppm of meta before racking. Racked over copper 1 way, and then back into the SS kegs, breaking 1 down into carboys and a platypus since we were out of Sangio for topping.  We discarded the bottom of the keg if it contained any sediment.
 
We will let it sit for a few more days and check it again. Once we are free of the rotten egg smell we will filter it to remove any elemental sulfur and yeast cells that may cause it to come back.
 
 We were initially going to add some cabernet right away (once it was pressed), but we will want to give the sangio a month or so to make sure the problem is solved before doing any blending.
 
 

Merlot Brix Reduced

The group met to discuss how to handle the Merlot and cab to avoid a stuck fermentation.  We took measurements of the brix and temp of all the bins.
 
Merlot: 5.5 brix, 66 degrees
Cab bin C 5 brix, 65 degrees
Cab bin B 5 brix, 66 degrees
Cab bin A 3 brix, 65 degrees
 
The cab continues to ferment some, with one bin dropping more than the other. Interestingly it is the bin with the higher PH that wasn't adjusted with acid. The Merlot hadn't changed brix in the last 24h, and only 1/2 brix in the previous 24h. There was still a cap and foam to indicate activity, but it has really slowed down.  Temps were at the low end of the spectrum for the first yeast pitched but well within the range for the EC1118 yeast. This supports the concern that fermentation is stalling and therefore not generating much heat.   
 
We talked about the fact that the EC1118 yeast hadn't taken over. It seems that you can't establish a second yeast after the first is going--something we were not aware of when we started. If we would have started with EC1118 yeast we likely would be OK right now.
 
We discussed the options of letting the Merlot sit for another day or two and seeing if it made progress. However there is a concern that if the temps drop below the minimum that we won't be able to warm the must up enough to get it going again because of the colder weather (low 30, high 50)
 
We decided to add the minimum amount of water to the Merlot to see if it would improve the "living conditions" for the yeast and restart it. We added 9G (with no acid correction) of 100-104 degree water (the temps recommended for yeast hydration) to the Merlot must and stirred vigorously to mix it up and get the yeast stimulated.  The ending measurements were 4.75 Brix and 68-69 degree must.
 
We covered the bins with several painting tarp/cloths to try and improve heat retention. We will measure the temp and brix and check for fermentation indications on Monday, as well as add a booster of the initial yeast used on the Merlot, which was RC212.
 
We will continue to monitor the cabernet. We decided to not add water to the cab yet, as we wanted to see if it worked on the merlot first. Plus the cab was still showing some signs of fermenting and lowering brix.  We did not press the merlot or cab because we want to have skins contact with the water added.  Plus the skins do give some amount of nutrient to the fermentation which we thought would help it progress better than being off the skins.
 

Sunday, November 16, 2008

Wine Dilution Details

The following wine website has a handy calculator for adjusting the brix of the must. Both adding sugar to increase the brix and adding water to dilute the brix.
 
 
If we targeted a brix of 27.5 (alcohol level of 15.6--within the 16% limit of pastur red  and RC112), here is the amount of water we would have to add.
 
Cabernet:
256G total must volume
29 initial brix
27.5 target brix
15.72G of water needed to reduce brix to target level (5G needed if the target brix is 28.5% or 16.3% alcohol)
 
Merlot:
114G total must volume
30.5 initial brix
28.5 target brix
14G of water needed to reduce brix to target level (9G needed if the target brix is 28.5 or 16.3% alcohol)

Saturday, November 15, 2008

Prepared For Pressing

Fermentation is still steady on both the Merlot and Cabernet, but has slowed down to 1/2 brix a day the last few days.  Both are nearing alcohol toxicity for the Pastur Red yeast. Additional EC 1118 yeast has been added, which has an alcohol tolerance of 18%.   We will have to monitor both very closely for a stuck fermentation.
 
The merlot started at 30.5 brix and has been on the skins 22 days and is around 5.5 brix. The final alcohol level is estimated at 17.5% and the current alcohol is around 15%. 
 
The cabernet started at 29 brix has been on the skins 16 days and is around 5 brix. The final alcohol level is estimated at 16.75% and the current alcohol is around 14%.
 
We have 114G of Merlot must. Assuming 63%-65% yield with a moderate pressing we will get 70-75G. That will fill both of Mike's 2 30G hungarian barrels plus 10-15G carboys.
 
We have 246G of Cabernet must. Assuming a 60-63% yeild with very light pressing we will get 147G-155G (130G barrels and 15-25G carboys). Note: We are pressing lightly because the harder you press the higher the PH, and we want to keep the PH down as much as possible.
 
Bin B & C of the cabernet have had acid adjustment to reduce the PH. Bin A has had no adjustment and we plan to mix it into the Sangio--once we're confident the H2SO problem is solved.  We should mark the barresl that get the cab pressed from Bin A so we can keep track of it.  There will be approximatly 42G, which would fill Bob's 20G french and Ray's 22G french.
 
The following barrels are clean and ready for the Merlot and Cabernet.
 
- Mike's 30G hungarian #1 (Merlot)
- Mike's 30G hungarian #2 (Merlot)
- Ray's new 30G French (Cab)
- Bob's 20G French (Cab Bin A)
- Ray's 22G French (Cab Bin A)
- Bob's 15G American (Cab)
- Michele's 13G French  (Cab)
- Troy's 15G hungarian (Cab)
- Michele's 15G hungarian (Cab)
 
The group is undecided about when to press.  We are discussing the pros and cons of pressing before the wines are "dry".   The grapes have been on the skins long enough to get color and flavor extraction (22 days for the merlot and 16 days for the cab). Usually we would let them stay until the cap is ready to fall. However, there is some concern that the high alcohol levels will extract harsh/bitter tannins from the seeds if allowed to have contact for very long, especially on the Cabernet because more seeds got exposed during crush than normal.  Pressing is currently scheduled for Sunday at 1:30pm. We may press nothing, everything, or part of the cab and leave some of the cab for another week.

Thursday, November 13, 2008

Sangio 2nd Racking

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The Sangio still has a strong rotten egg smell, but is definitely better than it was--we continue to be hopeful that we can fix it.  We added 20ppm meta and then racked it over copper.  We will wait several days and check it again.  Once we feel it is better we plan to run it through a fine filter to remove any "elemental sulfur" that has precipitated out of the wine.  There was already some amount of sediment on the bottom of the SS kegs that we threw out. We ended up topping with clone-6 cab as we didn't have enough sangio to fully fill all 4 of the 15G tanks.  After the next racking we'll switch to topping with the Williamson cabernet that will be used in the Super Tuscan.
 
Merlot is at 6 brix and Cab was around 7 brix. We plan to press them in 3 days on Sunday, around 1pm in the afternoon.
 
We put proxyclean in any barrel that had a sulfur wick burned in it.  They will get a meta/citric rinse before we fill them with cab on Sunday.  Several of the barrels were leaking and are being hydrated.  The 2 30G Hungarian barrels need a good meta/citric rinse.

Tuesday, November 11, 2008

Yeast booster added

Hydrated 6 packages of 1118 yeast in 2C 110 degree water and added 3/4 of it to the large bin-C of Cab and the other 1/4 to the smaller Bin-B of cab. Bin A got a booster yesterday as did the Merlot.

Both cab bins (B & C) were around 9.5 Brix tonight.

Monday, November 10, 2008

Clone 6 Press. Wines racked

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We pressed the WA Clone 6 cab tonight, it had been on the skins for 21 days and the cap was very soggy. It has great color and flavors! :-D  We pressed moderately hard and got 33G of wine from 52G of must--about a 63% yield. (Note: Earlier we had moved about 10G of Clone6 must into the sangio for co-fermentation.)  The Clone 6 is in Troy's 26G American barrel.
 
The Merlot is at 10 brix, compared to 12 brix 5 days ago and the Cab at 11 brix, compared with 23 brix 5 days ago.  Since the merlot is fermenting slowly we added 3 more packets of hydrated 1118 yeast to give it a boost. We also added about 2 packages to Bin A of the Williamson Cab. We'd like to add more to the other cab bins--we just ran out.  We expect to press the cab and merlot on Saturday and let them finish any last fermentation off of the skins and seeds, to help avoid harsh flavors from the high alcohol levels on the seeds.  That will give us 15 days on the skins for the Williamson cab and 22 days on the skins for the Merlot.
 
We racked the Chard, ID Malbec and Sangio.  The Malbec was good, the Chard tasted a little different (not bad, just different) but the Sangio had a very very bad case of rotten egg smell. :-( We racked it out over copper and then put it back into 4 15G SS kegs and a carboy.  We'll rack it again over copper in another week or two, and add some meta.  We are hopeful that we can clean it up, but we agreed we didn't want to blend in any Williamson cabernet until we were sure it was clean. So we'll need to keep track of the "uncorrected" Williamson cabernet with the higher PH in the meantime.
 
The 2 small Hungarian barrels that had the Sangio have some residual rotten egg smell. We will clean them good with Proxy Clean before putting more wine back in them.
 
 

Wednesday, November 5, 2008

Checking PH After Adjustment

Ray got some more calibration solution for the PH meter and we checked the PH on the Williamson cabernet.   The control sample (bin A) that had no adjustment was at PH 3.7 (it will get blended with the low PH Sangio).  Bin B was now 3.5-3.6 (reading vacillated) and the large bin C was at 3.5.  Those are good numbers and we are very happy with them. We'll continue to monitor the PH through fermentation.
 
We checked the sugars on the wines still fermenting:

Clone-6 Cab .996 brix  (will press in 4 days)
Merlot 12 brix
Williamson cab ranged from 23 to 26 brix, with the higher sugar in the big bin.

Saturday, November 1, 2008

Correcting the Cabernet

Troy, Lee and I met again last night to measure again the pH of the cab must and also to take a TA measurement. The pH numbers came in at 3.8, 3.8, and 3.7 for the two small bins and the large one, respectively. As Troy stated in his email, we'd like them to be at most 3.6 and preferably below that. The TA (titratable acids) came in at just 8.6, 8.2 and 7.9 for the three. That's quite a spread. I don't think that we stirred the first batch well enough before taking a sample. But the numbers are slightly w/in the recommended limit of 9. After some discussion, we thought that if we could bring the pH down about 1 to 2 units, we'd be OK. Since we're not very experienced at this, we discounted the 2 number. We're a little hesitant to do too much too soon. The discussion turned 1 or 1 1/2 units of adjustment and we settled on the 1 1/2 pH adjustment number for our target. Well, today I set out to buy the appropriate amount of tartaric acid and all I could come up with was just enough for a 1 unit adjustment. The brew shops were virtually sold out of the stuff. We'll have to do a check in a few days to see if more is available and if we want to add more. Lee, Bob and I added the acid to the must this afternoon and we'll probably measure again tomorrow. Lee pitched the Pasteur yeast this morning and it took hold immediately. We'll add the EC1118 high alcohol yeast in a couple days.The fermentation is under way.